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From: Rob Dobson
Date: Fri Jan 17, 2003 9:26am
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] anyway- er NLP as a pseudoscience anyone?
He says more about NLP in Pure Effect, although I
don't have the book with me here, its something along
the lines of 'some of its good, a lot of its
nonsense'.
Still, its a good way to present magical effects......
(you do know this sort of talk is virtually
sacrilegious on this forum)
--- mark wrote:
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ahem - your thoughts?
contributors to this list variously refer to NLP
models / techniques as
if the were part of an established science - after
conducting a review
of the academic literature available, i thought i
ought to share my
findings
before that - it may be of marginal interest to you to
learn the
following things from Derren himself
"NLP - it's an odd scene. I've been there and was
put off by it "
"no I don't use hypnosis per se. I do use
suggestion and so on but there
are no hypnotic inductions"
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bring it on....
* "Though it claims
neuroscience in its pedigree, NLP's outmoded
view of the relationship between cognitive style and
brain function
ultimately boils down to crude analogies. NLP basks in
effusive
testimonials, but the National Research Council could
unearth no hard
evidence in its favor, or even a succinct statement of
its underlying
theory."
-- Beyerstein, BL. (1990). Brainscams:
Neuromythologies of the New Age.
International Journal of Mental health, 19 (3), 27-36.
* ". . . N.L.P.
Theory is not well articulated, its terminology,
premises and assumptions are ambiguous or poorly
specified. As the
analysis in this article has shown, a basic reason for
the theory's
inadequacies are due to its borrowings from theories
that are
theoretically antagonistic to each other. . . . The
conclusions from
reviewing the literature are that as a theory, it is
undeveloped and
incoherent and that its techniques offer nothing
new."
-- Baddeley, M. (1989). Neurolinguistic programming:
The academic
verdict so far. Australian Journal of Clinical
Hypnotherapy and
Hypnosis, 10 (2), 73-81.
* This study compared
NLP techniques such as pacing, metaphor, and
phonemic devices to two much simpler non-NLP control
conditions: a
direct-information condition and a placebic
information-only condition.
No differences in attitudes were found among the
conditions, but the
non-NLP direct-information control condition
demonstrated significantly
more persuasion in behavioral measures, resulting in
the opposite of
what NLP practitioners would predict.
-- Dixon, PN; Parr GD; Yarbrough D; and Rathael M.
(1986).
Neurolinguistic Programming as a Persuasive
Communication Technique. The
Journal of Social Psychology, 126(4), 545-550.
* Huge intercorrelations
(hovering around r=.7) between subject
performance in different sensory modes resulted, which
is the only
possible outcome that wasn't predicted by NLP.
-- Fromme DK & Daniel J (1984). Neurolinguistic
Programming Examined.
Journal of Counseling Psychology 31 (3) 387-390.
* "The basic
tenents of NLP have failed to be reliably verified
in
almost 86% of the controlled studies . . . the
inquirer in this field
may be forgiven for accepting the conclusion of Elich
et al, (1985),
'NLP has achieved something akin to a cult status when
it may be nothing
more than another psychological fad'
(p.625)."
-- Sharpley, C. F. (1987). Research findings on
neurolingusitic
programming: Nonsupportive data or an untestable
theory? Journal of
Counseling Psychology, 34 (1), 103-107.
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